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Postby Costas » Mon Aug 08, 2016 2:32 am

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On closer examination I noticed that Yahoo France displays historical prices up until Feb 1 2106 for the majority of Funds ..so out goes Yahoo too..
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Postby Costas » Mon Aug 08, 2016 4:39 am

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With Bloomberg as a global solution out of the picture I propose that you reclassify the data sources on a per instrument and suitable historical source basis eg US stocks, ETFs--> X Source, European Stocks ETFs --> Y source .. European Mutual Funds ---> Z source Currencies---> C Source .. .. . This because the urgency at least for us in Europe, becomes one of linking investments with suitable historical price sources.. I would also suggest that you look into some form of paid download service that can be embedded into the FM.. so that major upsets like the recent elimination of Bloomberg can be avoided as we go forwarded..I am worried that without a swift solution of the European mutual fund historical price retrieval issue FM would loose its practical advantages at least for some of us.
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Postby Mark » Mon Aug 08, 2016 10:08 am

Hi Djobydjoba,

Djobydjoba wrote:Hi Mark and Costas,

Some sites to try (I haven't really evaluate them myself) :

http://www.fundexplorerpro.com
30 days of historical NAV
They have the FR0007386313 fund

https://fundkis.com
They have the FR0007386313 fund too.
Strangely the NAV history seems not available when the website is in english. So, when in french, clic the "VLs and OSTs" tab

As a reminer
BNP Paribas Website :
https://www.directinvest.bgl.lu/Market-information.
But they don't have the FR0007386313.


Thanks for the help. The fundexplorerpro server seems good.
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Postby Mark » Mon Aug 08, 2016 10:16 am

Hi Costas,

Costas wrote:Mark
With Bloomberg as a global solution out of the picture I propose that you reclassify the data sources on a per instrument and suitable historical source basis eg US stocks, ETFs--> X Source, European Stocks ETFs --> Y source .. European Mutual Funds ---> Z source Currencies---> C Source .. .. . This because the urgency at least for us in Europe, becomes one of linking investments with suitable historical price sources.. I would also suggest that you look into some form of paid download service that can be embedded into the FM.. so that major upsets like the recent elimination of Bloomberg can be avoided as we go forwarded..I am worried that without a swift solution of the European mutual fund historical price retrieval issue FM would loose its practical advantages at least for some of us.
Thx

C.


Okay, thanks for the feedback. I can understand that would be easier from an end-user point of view. It can be a longer term goal for us to move that way, but for now we're server based instead of investment type/location based.

I agree some server options that include paid choices would be good additions. We do have Quandl which fits into this category. They offer both a selection of free and premium (paid) databases. With this server you sign up for an account with Quandl, and if you want access to the Premium databases you can buy access. You enter your Quandl API key into Fund Manager, so you can access the databases you've paid for. Hopefully Quandl will continue to expand their offerings. If we can find other services like this out there we will definitely look into getting them added. If you have any specific ideas please to let us know.
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Postby Djobydjoba » Mon Aug 08, 2016 11:30 am

Mark wrote:If we can find other services like this out there we will definitely look into getting them added. If you have any specific ideas please to let us know.

The financial data provider of http://www.fundexplorerpro.com is "Six". Just for the record, they offer this sort of product : http://www.six-financial-information.co ... daily.html

Could be interesting...
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Postby Djobydjoba » Mon Aug 08, 2016 11:56 am

Here again, in the TOS of http://www.fundexplorerpro.com

In french ;
Il s'interdit en outre d'utiliser tout moyen de récupération automatique (programme informatique) pour collecter les informations ou données présentes sur le Site (cotations, graphiques, textes...), et ce, pour un usage quelconque.

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Postby Djobydjoba » Sun Apr 30, 2017 9:18 am

For the record, Börse Frankfurt website : http://en.boerse-frankfurt.de/. Good historical prices depth, many currencies pairs, funds, amongst others. And historical spot prices for some commodities too (not provided by other quote servers).
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Postby Mark » Sun Apr 30, 2017 9:44 am

Hi Djobydjoba,

Okay, thanks for the help/info.
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Postby Djobydjoba » Sat Nov 04, 2017 10:17 am

The Alpha Vantage web service provides real-time and historical equity data. The service is free, requiring only a free, one-time registration. The service provides daily, weekly, and monthly history for both domestic and international markets, with up to 20 years of history. For daily data, adjusted close prices are available to account for dividends and splits. The service can also provide real-time price bars at a resolution of 1 minute or higher, for up to 10 recent days. They have a clean, documented, public API that returns JSON-encoded data.


https://www.alphavantage.co/

I don't know what it's worth.
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Postby Mark » Sat Nov 04, 2017 10:27 am

Hi Djobydjoba,

Thanks for the suggestion. I have actually recently been looking at that as a possible new server. Ideally we could find a server that allows multiple tickers to be requested in a single request, like Yahoo used to do. That enabled a much faster price retrieve. From the documentation on this server, I don't believe they offer this capability.
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Postby Djobydjoba » Sat Nov 04, 2017 10:54 am

Hi Mark,

Don't you thing a partnership with a data provider (or several) could be beneficial? For better availability and reliability of quotes? This is a concern. There is always the threat that a free quote server close or change the service (or its terms).
The user could have access to a catalog of APIs. He would subscribe for what he needs. This kind of thing (just an example): http://www.xignite.com/Products#
There is Quandl, but their premium data are disappointing.

This is a naive question from me, I have no idea what this would imply (pricing, technical and legal issues, etc.).
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Postby Mark » Sun Nov 05, 2017 8:08 am

Hi Djobydjoba,

Yes, that would be good. I've not really looked into it before, as the cost appeared prohibitive, but maybe it is not. I took a look at xignite, and that seems like a very nice interface. I've not exhaustively explored how much data they have, but it looks comprehensive at first glance. I've initiated a conversation with them to see what it would take to get them integrated into Fund Manager. We'll see...
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Postby Djobydjoba » Sun Nov 26, 2017 6:37 am

Hi Mark,

From a post by ebarbero (here: viewtopic.php?p=17886#p17886), Financial Times seems another very interesting source for quotes. I've found there the historical prices for all of my french mutual funds, not available on the other quote servers. The historical prices are available on the FT page one year at a time. The search engine accepts ISIN codes, so it's very handy. From my testing, the website should be exhaustive regarding European mutual funds (I've tried random Italian mutual funds too). I've not went a lot into other investment types.

An mutual fund page on FT: https://markets.ft.com/data/funds/tears ... 922963:EUR

I don't know if it could be implemented in Fund Manager (TOS concerns, etc.), it would be great. At least, many Fund Manager users from Europe should be interested in knowing that historical prices for the European Fund are available there and can be manually imported at least (can be a solution if coupled with a automatic retrieve of the daily price with Morningstar).
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Postby Mark » Mon Nov 27, 2017 8:32 am

Hi Djobydjoba,

Okay, thanks for the information. We'll take a look...
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Postby Djobydjoba » Sun Jan 07, 2018 12:55 pm

https://www.investing.com
The website in really a pain without an adblocker (they have an ad-free version for 40$/annually), but otherwise awesome / unmatched content for free (well, if we can bear the ads).
The database is huge, awesome, and worldwide. With commodities, CFD, futures, yields, all the indexes we can think of (and not available elsewhere : MSCI, FTSE...), worldwide equities database too, forex, cryptos...
Free sign up to have access to portfolios, watchlists, and... to download historical data in .csv (a button I had not noticed before. New?)

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